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[captioning made possible by democracy now!] pacifica, this is "democracy now!" >> we have no despite -- notify the israeli army 33 times. in the end, at least nine people were killed and 27 injured. >> israel faces international condemnation as another u.n. school housing palestinians seeking shelter is hit in gaza. the united states called the attack disgraceful, the u.n. called it a moral outrage and a criminal act. we will go to jerusalem to a u.n. spokesperson and to gaza city, where we will speak with
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an award-winning journalist. so far, 63 israeli troops have been killed along with three civilians. the pas palestinian death 1300.as topped >> i am a palestinian author and social activist from gaza city. i live in columbia, maryland. and my tax dollars killed eight members of my family this morning. >> all that and more, coming up. welcome to "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. tol -- in gaza has killed 1800 as the israeli offensive enters its 18th day. the united states has called this attack disgraceful, u.n.
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secretary-general ban ki-moon called it a moral outrage and a criminal act. it was the seventh u.n. school hit since israel's offensive began. the one is wearing of a rapidly unfolding health crisis in gaza as large parts of the territory remained without power and running water and well over 300,000 are displaced. the u.n.'s top humanitarian official for the occupied territories warned of an outbreak of waterborne diseases. >> essential services -- water, sanitation, and electricity -- that are hardly functioning at all. we have the recipe for a health disaster and we are withheld officials talking about diseases that we have not seen in the gaza strip for decades. i am talking about typhoid, cholera, another waterborne diseases that could breakout given the overall health disaster situation we see now. over 200 palestinians have
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been killed since the 72-our cease-fire collapsed on friday. the israeli government admitted a soldier it had reported as captured have been killed in battle. capturesed the reported to accuse hamas of picking the cease-fire. hamas never confirmed the capture and says he was likely killed in fighting before the cease-fire took effect. israel killed well over 100 people in a heavy bombardment of rafah. today, israel announced a unilateral seven-hour truce of most of the gaza strip except rafah. israelnians have accused of breaking its own cease-fire by launching a bomb attack that killed an eight-year-old girl and wounded 29 other people in a refugee camp. thousands of people rallied outside the white house on saturday in protest of u.s. backing for the israeli assault
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on gaza. some called it the largest rally for palestinian rights ever held in the united states. >> for my country. i hope to see my country free one day. are all american we complicit because our tax money funds the military techniques and weapons that are being used to murder innocent civilians. it is devastating, infuriating. i'm feeling frustrated with government, and hopefully we can make a little bit of a change. we have been writing to congress, writing to the president, writing to secretary to make the change. progress is slow but we are hopeful. >> we will go to gaza city and jerusalem with headlines. president obama has raised the prospect of new executive action on integration as congress fails to send registration before the summer recess.
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the republican-controlled house approved a measure that would provide less than $700 million to address the migrant crisis on the southern border. far below the $2.7 billion obama sought. republicans also voted to speed up the deportation of child ofrants and revoked much president obama's executive order granting a reprieve to undocumented youth. on friday, obama said he is prepared to act on his own. >> without additional resources and help from congress, we are not going to have the resources we need to fully solve the problem. that means while they are out on vacation, i am going to make tough choices to meet the challenge, with or without congress. reportswashington post" president obama is considering measures including to marie relief for law-abiding immigrants closely related u.s. citizens or those who have lived in the country a certain number of years, up to 5 million people.
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on saturday, hundreds of protesters rallied outside the white house in a call for president obama to halt his administration's record deportations and address comprehensive reform. the vice president of the afl-cio said president obama has a unique opportunity to take action. >> the president has an opportunity to provide justice to the parents to provide thosee to the workers, to who have been working in the shadows. we want the president to be bold and provide justice and provide opportunity for people to come out of the shadows. that is what we are here for. >> president obama is backing central intelligence agency director john brennan in the face of calls for brennan's resignation. brandon admitted last week cia officials spied on a senate panel probing the cia's torture and rendition program, months after he made an initial denial. brennan made the acknowledgment
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after an internal cia inquiry found 10 agency employees illegally monitored senate staffers' coputmputers. at least three senators have called on brennan to step down. at a news conference friday, president obama said he has full confidence in brennan. ,ddressing the senate report obama acknowledged that the u.s. has "tortured some folks." >> we did a lot of things that were wrong. we did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks. -- it isput in for us important for us not to feel too sanctimonious in retrospect about the tough job that those folks have. a lot of those folks were working hard under enormous pressure, and are real patriots >>. >>in comments that got far less attention, president obama also all,he banned "some," not
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of the cia's torture practices after 9/11. >> having said all that, we did some things that were wrong. and that is what that report reflects. that is the reason why after i took office, one of the first things i did was to ban some of the extraordinary interrogation techniques that were the subject of that report. a the death toll from record-setting ebola outbreak in west africa's top 820. the world health organization is warning that the epidemic is out of control and could turn catastrophic. at a summit meeting on friday, who director margaret chan said leaders of the three most affected countries -- ginny, liberia, and sierra leone -- have agreed on a $100 million plan to contain the virus. >> the presidents of these tv countries recognize the serious
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outbreaks in ebola their countries. they are determined to take extraordinary measures to stop ebola in their countries. >> the measures included deploying troops to the worst affected regions that account for around 70% of the ebola cases. 2 americans are known to have -- contracted the ebola virus and will be treated under quarantine inside the united states. a doctor who contracted ebola in liberia is all ready returned to the united states and is in a special isolation unit in atlanta'sss emery -- emory university hospital, where he is said to be improving. iner see also is based liberia -- a nurse you is also based in library is set to arrive at emory on tuesday. northwest ohio is in the third
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day of a water ban affecting over 400,000 people. toxin, miin, mike -- crocystin, causes skin rashes and can lead to liver damage. in a briefing to reporters, toledo mayor michael collins said that while toxin levels are approving, there is no timeline for when water will be safe to drink. >> if i could give you a time, i .ould, but i can't all i can tell you is that everything is trending in a very positive direction. >> the high levels of the talks cystin are micro caused by booming algae on lake erie. several factors fuel algae increases, including excess runoff of rosters from industrial farms that use excess fertilizer and adopt other poor practices. climate change is also linked to algae blooms, with heavier rains and hundred temperatures causing
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a have your phosphorus runoff into the lake. an earthquake in the chinese has killed nearly 400 people, with more than 1800 wounded. a new report has revealed and eight -- the u.s. agency has sent latin american recruits to cuba to fuel antigovernment activism under the guise of the civic causes like hiv revenge -- hiv prevention. the associated press revealed that the u.s. agency for international the moment sent a dozen young people from venezuela, costa rica, and peru to cuba to organize antigovernment sentiment during his and obama's first -- president obama's first term. there is no evidence they succeeded in their mission. justrogram was launched after usaid contractor alan gross was arrested in cuba, where he remains in jail on suspicion of being a u.s. spy. as part of the program, usaid hired creative associates
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international, a firm that played a key role in the cuban twitter program, a fake social media program launched in another bid to undermine the cuban government. amedical examiner has made ruling of homicide in the death of eric garner, the african-american father of six who died after police placed him in a chokehold in staten island, new york. police say they confronted garner because he was selling bootleg cigarettes. graphic video of the incident shows an officer pulling garner to the ground by the neck and will think his head -- holding his head against the pavement. garner repeatedly says he can't breathe. his family and supporters have called for criminal charges against the officer and a federal civil rights investigation. and those are some of the headlines. ,"is is "democracy now! democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i am amy goodman.
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toll hastinian death as the israeli offensive enters its 20th day. on sunday, at least 10 people died when israel shelled another united nations school sheltering palestinian civilians. the united states called the attack disgraceful, u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon called it a moral outrage a criminal act. chris gunness is spokesman of the u.n. relief and works agency for palestine refugees. >> there is no evidence whatsoever that there were militants inside the school, no evidence that there were militants firing rockets from inside the school. in international law you have to distinguish between combatant and noncombatants, you have to distinguish proportionality. >> we will go to christopher gunness in a moment in jerusalem. earlier today israel announced a yunnan rural seven-hour truce in most of the gaza strip except for rafah.
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alreadyians have accused israel of breaking its own cease-fire by launching a bomb attack that killed an eight-year-old girl and wounded 29 other people in the shotty refugee camp. just before the cease-fire began, an israeli airstrike killed a leader from islamic jihad. hamas has accused israel of misleading the world about the alleged capture of an israeli soldier. on friday, israel said one of its soldiers, lieutenant but are golden, had been captured -- ldin, hadt hadar go been captured near rafah. his suspected of dutch and led to an israeli offensive in rafah that killed over 100 people and the collapse of the u.s.- and u.n.-brokered cease-fire. on sunday israel announced goldin had been killed in battle. 63 is really soldiers and three civilians in israel has been killed in the past four weeks. congress has approved emergency funding for israel's iron dome missile defense system. the senate approved the measure
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unanimously. city whereo gaza we're joined by mohammed omer, award-winning palestinian journalist. your family is from rafah. we spoke briefly on friday. can you talk about what has taken place over the weekend? rafah istuation in terrifying at the moment. as we see in the background, this is gaza city. about 2city we have hours left on the cease-fire that the israeli government announced late last night. includes the gaza strip and mainly rafah refugee camp. rafah is living under very dire circumstances. i have been in touch with my grandmother, who was telling me rafah istuation in close to the catastrophe and the damage and the same scenes of
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people and bodies she is able to see in our neighborhood. people are reaching a level in the rafah refugee camps to put the bodies over the victims inside refrigerators. are filledrs with bodies of human beings, and those are filled, and we're seeing more and more ice cream freezers filled with children. one of the children is under 2 months. she was just killed by israeli missile 24 hours ago and her body is still inside one of these ice cream freezers. striptuation in the gaza is rather terrifying, with a lot of people who are injured. and on the ground, waiting for ambulances to pick them up. hospitals are not able to cope. the hospitals have come under ise and the other hospital functioning but only for a few
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cases. dead bodies are on the street at the moment. nobody is able to evacuate them. i have talked to health officials who informed me that there is about 300 people who are killed and ab -- in the last three days in rafah alone. the border of rafah has witnessed a lot of damages caused by the israeli military bombardment. the f-16 missiles are continuing until this moment. everything that moves within rafah can be a target. i have also been talking to the mayor of rafah, who also toormed me that 30,000 40,000 inhabitants of rafah have no access to water and no access to electricity. they have been trying to call the international red cross and the international red cross is not responding to any phone calls from citizens. there's a lot of criticism from the local population in rafah that the international red cross
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is not responding, is not taking phone calls from people. so who would they call and turn to in times of crisis when they need help? >> mohammed omer, what about this -- what is it -- seven-hour pause and the attack that is being alleged that the israeli military engaged in? attack actually happened just a few minutes after the cease-fire started. the cease-fire started at 10:00. it is 11 or 12 minutes. a bomb attack in the west of gaza city its 30 people. 29 of them were injured. most of them were children. 18-year-old girl was killed. eight-year-old girl was killed. this is the only file nation i've seen today, which in my view is a sign of progress.
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but still, the gaza strip is quite cautious. people are not really getting outside on full capacity as they would want to. we see in the background some people are moving -- usually the street is quite empty. people are getting outside. some of them are getting outside for humanitarian reasons. others are getting outside to bury their relatives and loved ones. there are families getting outside to get medical supplies -- food, water, whatever they need to face the coming days. people are expecting this war to continue in gaza as israel seems not to be in cairo together with the palestinian factions to reach a long-term solution or cease-fire. thathammed omar, the pause the israeli military has announced does not include rafah . for the geographically challenged, can you explain
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is, but also the geopolitical significance of rafah and why they are continuing to attack through this period? rafah refugee camp is in the south parts of the gaza strip. it has about 180,000 inhabitants. borders with egypt. one of them is the rafah crossing, even though egyptian authorities announced the crossing is open but the saystinian border control their staff members cannot reach the rafah crossing, which means they cannot evacuate injured bodies, they cannot make people access to these because it is difficult for them to work and function on full capacity when there is gunfire and shelling at the rafah crossing. the other side of the rafah
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crossing is the commercial crossing, where -- which is basically all the materials and the food and supplies that enter the gaza strip through the israeli-controlled marshall crossing. -- commercial crossing. if raw files been attacked like this, people will start to realize in gaza city that the situation is going to happen very soon. you have hundreds of people in lines waiting to get bread in bakeries and they just want to get that before the 2 hours finish, the next 2 hours. that is complicated to do that. i have been to get some bread in gaza city and you are talking at least half a day waiting to get bread in the last few hours. you may not be able to get it. there are other people who are going to find water and they cannot. rafah is very central entry point for people who exit and entry into the gaza strip and it
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is important that rafah is considered to be the lifeline through the tunnels. the tunnels have been completely shut in the last few years -- few months. the situation in the south part of gaza strip is more tightened aid groupsanitarian coming to the gaza strip to help palestinians are not allowed into the gaza strip because they feel unsafe to come under gunfire. the situation -- there are people in ambulances at this moment, as we speak, and there are no ambulances who can get into the area, no ambulances that can evacuate the bodies. the rafah area is under constant bombardment and constant siege. in has been isolated completely from the rest of the gaza strip. i think it is an alarming sign that this is going to continue and we are going to expect more and more massacres. maning about massacres, the
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, 63-year-old man who was killed missile,aeli f-16 killing other nine family members from his home, putting one child, -- including one child, only about 2 months. >> very quickly, the public ,ealth crisis in gaza right now can you talk about the electricity and water? and the warnings about diseases? water, the electricity, the possibility of disease, waterborne diseases? well what we're going to have to leave it at that because it looks like mohammed omer just lost our audio feed to gaza city. omer is an
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award-winning palestinian journalist reporting from gaza city. this is "democracy now!" when we come back, we will go to jerusalem to speak to you and spokesperson chris gunness on about the attack on yet another shelter run by the united nations in which palestinians have taken refuge. stay with us.
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>this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. im amy goodman. "disgraceful and appalling was quote -- those were the words used by the united nations and united states to condemn israel after at least 10 palestinian civilians died from shelling outside another u.n. school on sunday. the school was reportedly being used as a shelter for about 3000 people. it was the second attack on a u.n. school in less than a week and the seventh over the course of israel's assault.
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shortly after sunday's attack, the state department issued a the unitedsaying, " states is appalled by today's disgraceful shelling outside an unrwa school." shortly afterwards, u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon characterized the attack as "a moral outrage and a criminal act." u.n. humanitarian coordinator in the occupied palestinian territory, or james rawley, warned that nowhere in gaza remains safe. >> they have moved from their homes not once, not twice, but three times, and they asked me, "mr. rawley, you work for the u.n., where can i go?" i don't have an answer. there is no safe place in gaza. we are seeing a real humanitarian disaster here, and the impact on children is just absolutely appalling. jerusalem, where we are joined by christopher
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gunness, the spokesperson for the united nations relief and works agency for palestine refugees, unrwa. chris gunness, welcome to "democracy now!" tell us what you know about the attack on her shoulder. > -- on your shelter. >> attend: 45 there was some kind of israeli missile strike just adjacent to the front gates ,f one of our schools in rafah where more than 3000 people were taking refuge. don't forget, these are people who were told -- many of them were told by the israeli army to leave their homes. what are they do?/ they walk through a battlefield, effectively, they turn about what is assumed to be a u.n. safe sanctuary, and then they get killed there. you have to draw your own conclusions, but when i hear your introduction talking about the reaction of the state department, and when i hear your introduction and what you say
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about the secretary-general, it is clear that the outrage and indignation of the world is real. this is visceral, genuine shock and indignation, what has happened. one hopes that the way this can be channeled will be through a proper investigation. the way the international indignation must be quelled is through the truth coming out. that is why we again yesterday called for an investigation. that is why no doubt the state department has backed our call for investigation, because let's focus this issue on where it should be focused, the victims. if you know anyone who has ever been the victim of this sort of violence, let me tell you that the road to recovery is long and hard. but the first a.b. step on that onnful -- first baby step
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that painful route is knowing the truth, and that is what we owe the victims and their families of this appalling incident. there is no greater denial of human dignity than to be denied a problem -- denied a proper, full death which is not anonymous. behind all of these statistics is people with dignity and destinies that must be respected. anchristopher gunness, israeli military spokesperson said on sunday that the israeli military was and is getting the attack, the second to hit a school in less than a week. >> does not target u.n. facilities. that has to be clear. we do not target u.n. facilities. the idf targeted a group of terrorists on a motorcycle, at least 2 people adjacent to the school on high-speed. we struck them and we're looking into the consequences of this
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strike. i can't confirm that our target was taken out. we are investigating the situation, we will get to the bottom of this, and once we do we will make our conclusions public. >> that is a spokesperson for the israeli military. christopher gunness, your response. >> well, it is one in a sadly long litany of such apologetic public utterances that we have heard from israeli spokespeople. i have a long enough memory to go back -- for instance, january 2009, when there was a direct attack by the israeli army on our main headquarters in gaza city, and our warehouse there was burned to the ground. we had an apology then. there is another incident where there have been apologies. but i ask you is genuine earnestness, have you seen a
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full and frank and honest and open investigation, such that there have been criminal prosecutions, people being held responsible after those sorts of attacks? him,ext time you interview amy, i hope you asked him when was the last time there was a and some kind of accountability and individuals being held responsibility for these attacks, because surely the proof of the pudding is in the eating, as my english grandmother might've said. if they are genuine in wanting the truth to come out , where this has happened in the past and where we can expect this will happen in the future with these attacks that have taken place in the current fighting. i don't have an answer to that question. not saying he's telling an and n untruth. i don't know what the answer is. >> that was a spokesperson for
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the israeli defense forces. i want to go to your boss, raspberry to the un security whocil from gaza city -- has briefed the un security council from gaza city. >> i believe the population is appeal torecipice, an the international community to take the steps necessary to address the extent situation. displacementr indeed occur, the occupying power, open to international humanitarian law, we'll have to assume direct response ability. >> christopher gunness, could you talk more about what your boss said? >> essentially, he is making a pragmatic point and a practical point, when sibley that unrwa -- quite sibley that u.n. art of ua has reached its capacity to deal with civilian consequences of israeli another military decisions.
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he is making an international jurisprudential point as well, that according to international law it is the belligerent parties to the conflict who are responsible for the civilian consequences of their actions. they are responsible, for example, to allow civilians, women and children, according to the principle that they should be allowed to leave, the principle of distinction. women and children believe the battle zone. there are principles such as proportionality. but the point is that the parties to the conflict are those who are responsible for civilian -- for the civilians. we have done what we can. we identified 92 schools for shelters. we have reached 90. some of those schools are in extremely dangerous areas, as we saw yesterday in rafah, but we also saw in other areas where there were terrible multiple
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deaths and injuries as a result of israeli shelling. we have simply reached the limits of our capacity -- >> how many palestinian refugees are there? >> in our facilities there are 270,000. that is an average of just under 3000 per facility. you can imagine, these are schools which were built for the education of thousand children coming in the morning and leaving in the afternoon each day. they were not designed for 3000 .eople-plus in some cases, 24/7 they were not designed to provide sanitation, hygiene, food, water, mattresses, all of these accommodations. asy were never envisaged places where this could be provided. unrwa is overwhelmed by this -- >> are you turning people away? >> no, absolutely not, and we will not.
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and by the way, amy, 11 of our staff, 11 of my colleagues have been killed. most aid organizations in the state or elsewhere have pulled out by now but there is an overwhelming human displacement catastrophe going on in gaza. and there is no way that unrwa would simply leave and allow civilians -- women, children, the elderly, the sick, the dying -- to fend for themselves. the point that my boss was making is that we are soon going to be in a situation where we don't have room. there are some 475,000 -- that is a conservative estimation -- of people who have been displaced in gaza. we will run the risk of people soon being stranded in the streets because there simply is no where for them to go. one of the alarming -- i think it is going to become clear in the coming weeks -- one of the more alarming aspects of this conflict is whereas in 2008,
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2009, a lot of public infrastructure was hit, so the industrial zone in the north , forof gaza -- bakeries production factories, these sorts of things were very badly hit. in fact, they were bulldozed in the last days of the war, many of them. this time around we will discover, sadly, that tens of homes havef people's been leveled, and the fact is that many tens of thousands of those people in our facilities right now probably don't have homes to go back to, and those lucky enough to have homes to go back to may have homes to go back to which are no longer on the water or electricity systems because those, too, have been very badly damaged. there is a homelessness crisis -- call it a human displacement crisis, call it what you will -- populatetivated -- un -- uncalculated proportions. it will be a public health
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problem. there is a public health catastrophe going on. most of the medical facilities in gaza are nonoperational. the staff can't get to the places of work. 8000, we estimate, people have in the occupied palestinian territory, which includes the west bank, the largest hospital in the occupied territories has people in the , the wounded, the sick, the injured, because this country don't have space. anyone's book is a public health disaster and it compounds the appalling human displacement crisis that is there and it is only a matter of time before we see the outbreak of commutable diseases. sorry, amy. >> very quickly before we go, unrwa has said that you contacted the israeli military
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33 times to tell them the coordinates of a particular shelter that just got struck. what does that mean, you contacted them? explain how that happens. you keep calling them and saying "this is where the school is"? >> you pick up the phone. immunitiesiplomatic convention, we are obliged to notify -- to use the language of the convention -- the israeli authorities of where all our facilities are. even before the crisis happened they have the precise coordinates of all our installations, protecting them and making sure they don't come into harms way. on top of that, when the fighting intensified but starts to encourage on our buildings, we phoned them up -- we literally pick up the phone and say "excuse me, but your firing is getting closer and closer. there are over 3000 people in that school. would you please not endanger their lives?" of course, in this case it got
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closer and there was that missile adjacent to the gate. the last phone call to the israeli army was an hour before that strike. in another case we also made multiple phone calls the night before and look what happened. i can't explain it. you ask what lies behind it. peterve to phone up lerner again and put it to him that the u.s. pointed out 33 times, including up to the hour beforehand, and ask them for an explanation. recently don't have one. > -- we sadly don't have one. >> christopher gunness, thank you for being with us. this is "democracy now!" we will be back in a minute.
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this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i am amy goodman. egyptian president abdel fatah all cc has proposed terms for a truce but neither israeli nor hamas officials plan to send envoys to the proposed peace talks in cairo. hamas has reportedly rejected the initial egyptian initiative, saying it was not consulted and the plan fails to end israel's blockade of gaza. the seven-year siege has crippled the economy, civilian infrastructure, and water supplies. unemployment tops 40% and i'll most 80% rely on humanitarian aid. almost 80% rely on humanitarian aid. ar next guest has laid out possible plan for a cease-fire in his new article in "the london review of books" called
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"hamas's chances." in the article, nathan thrall writes, "the obvious solution is to let the new west indian government return to gaza and reconstruct it. israel can claim it is weakening hamas by strengthening its enemies. hamas can claim it won the recognition of the new government and a significant lifting of the blockade." welcome to "democracy now!" why don't you lay out your plan? >> i should say beforehand that it is less likely to occur now since the cease-fire broke down on friday. but basically, until several days ago, when you had work three possibilities for the way this conflict would and there it one is an escalation with thatli occupation of gaza would cost a lot of israeli lives and last a year or more, it's intent was to truly
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"disarm" hamas and replace it with some unknown entity. the second option was a negotiated agreement. the third was a unilateral , and hopeshdrawal that that would result in some kind of cease-fire that would not be a negotiated agreement. israel would decide what it would or wouldn't do for gaza on its own terms. that third option is the most likely one, in part because of performance on the ground. they inflicted a lot more damage on israel than anyone expected. because the israeli prime minister is being attacked on the right for not doing more to undermine hamas, and people are calling for a total reoccupation vulnerable is quite to the criticism that he is capitulating to extortion for rocket fire and virtually any concession that he makes in a negotiated agreement, and he
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would have to make concessions in a negotiated agreement, he would be vulnerable to a great deal of attack. his preferred route at this point is the unilateral , and to hope than that the rocket fire slowly subsides and then he can try to make some changes to gaza afterward in order to minimize the likelihood of a new eruption. of course, a new eruption would be inevitable if that is how the sense. the other option of the negotiated agreement is basically what you had all along, where 2 fundamental demands that at first seemed irreconcilable. the first was the israeli demand that in order to lift the blockade, hamas would have to demilitarize or be a militarized militarized. the second would be that the
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hamas demand in a change for the cease-fire the blockade would be lifted. the way that one could do it is basically to say demilitarization of hamas is in its literal sense very unlikely. the only way that i can occur -- that that tenant curt is israel doing it by force or a two state settlement in which hamas' forces and other militant factions are integrated into a palestinian state. the latter is not on the table right now, but it is theoretically another way out of this crisis. it was to deal with break down these 2 concepts -- the israeli demand for demilitarization, the hamas demand for lifting the blockade -- into many, many component parts. lifting the blockade consists of opening the rafah crossing to
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egypt and increasing the number of people who travel through their and increases in exports for gaza and increased travel between gaza and the west bank. it could potentially mean a monitorspier with eu that brings goods back and forth from cyprus. onee are a number of ways could conceptualize lifting the forkade to similarly, demilitarization, hamas is not putting its rockets into open source guarded by egyptian soldiers. there are other things that are more feasible -- monitors to come and make sure that one limits the amount of the version of construction materials to military purposes. one can have monitors in gaza enforcing on both sides -- enforcing the cease-fire and making sure that it is in fact a being observed. one can have anti-smuggling efforts done primarily on the
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egypt-gaza border. there is also a distinction between the "offensive" tunnels, where hamas has tunnels that go into israeli territory and what hamas considers defensive tunnels, underneath gaza itself. all of these things are items that could be negotiated in a cease-fire, and the only way that that could be able minute is by bringing -- that could be implemented is by bringing the palestinian authority government into gaza to implement it. all parties concerned understand that the palestinian authority government is the only mechanism. egypt is unwilling to have any real dealings with hamas. they demand that the soldiers who man the border with egypt and operate of the crossing, that they be palestinian authority soldiers. israel similarly demands that they deal with palestinian
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authority on the crossings. finally, hamas agrees -- they i cametand that after sis to power in egypt, there is basically no possibility for them to govern gaza themselves. haveevacuated -- they acquiesced on this months before it began and are prepared to have the palestinian authority come back. >> i want to correct something i said earlier -- there is a palestinian delegation in cairo, right? >> that's right. >> israel is refusing at this point to participate in egypt and cairo? >> that's right. the egyptians are negotiating with the palestinian delegation. , hamasthere are no gaza members of that delegation, which is a problem. discussions of finding way to guarantee that they could be permitted to leave gaza in order to go to egypt.
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egypt will work with the palestinian delegation to work on a new modified cease-fire proposal that would be brought to israel, and israel has not commented on it publicly but they would review that offer. -- this latest breaking news, the attack on a construction excavator into an israeli bus monday, killing a pedestrian before he was shot and killed by a police officer -- police are calling it a terrorist attack, indicating they suspect palestinian involvement. do you know anything about this? you are in jerusalem. >> i was a couple blocks away from it when it happened. extraordinary number of sirens and police cars. is oneo the scene, this of a series of events that has been occurring since before this conflict began. in many senses this conflict began in jerusalem and the west bank, and among the palestinian
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citizens of israel itself. there was a lot of turmoil in the weeks preceding the thelict, particularly after abduction and murder of the 3 israeli teenage students of yeshiva in the west bank and the killing of the palestinian boy in east jerusalem. since the conflict has in early july, their up and nightly clashes -- there have been nightly clashes in west bank villages and in jerusalem. this is something that is not being paid attention to closely enough. this allegation that an israeli soldier was captured that turn out not to be the case on friday, that the significance of this killing that took place over the weekend? >> i'm sorry, the killing -- israelallegation that
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had made on friday that an israeli soldier was captured. hamas said it wasn't true, it turned out not to be true. the white house weighted heavily friday afternoon, saying it was barbaric that he was captured, but in the end it or not he was killed in battle and israel admitted that. but the justification of the attacks that took place after that. see, whether the attack in jerusalem -- today no, not related to . i'm talking about what happened over the weekend. >> i see. the problem with the cease-fire that was a bus to take place for --hours, "in morning supposed to take place for 72 hours, beginning friday morning, is that it was not clear what the terms of the cease-fire were and the rules of engagement. hamas look at it as one-sided to permit israeli forces to stay inside gaza and blowup tunnels while hamas is not permitted to fight against israel. the announcement that
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kerry made with the secretary-general of the u.n. on the cease-fire did not make clear whether israel would be permitted to do such activities. according to hamas' account and accounts ofe u.n. what occurred prior to the start of the cease-fire is that at 6:00 a.m., israeli forces which justour several days been 200 meters inside the border at rafah, the southern-most town inside gaza, the israeli forces at 6:00 a.m. move from 200 meters inside rafah to 2 kilometers inside rafah, and according to the military "orrespondent for "haaretz, they wanted to .5 kilometers, and the idea was to acquire -- or their forces as deeply into gaza territory as possible just before the 8:00 a.m. cease-fire
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goes into effect with the understanding that wherever they are, they are allowed in that area and east of it towards the border to do all kinds of anti-tunneling operations. did not consider this to be in the spirit of the cease-fire despite the fact that it literally occurred at 2 hours before, and hamas forces retaliated at 7:00 a.m. 7:30, the brigade of the military wing of hamas posted a a.m. in arabic, saying "we just did a major military operation against forces in rafah and killed several of them." the israelis claim this to place at 9:30 after the cease-fire took place, and i don't know if the incident reported in the twitter feed was the same one in which the soldier and a couple others died.
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but it is clear that there is lots of fighting in the hours going up to the cease-fire and that it continued after the cease-fire. erspective, yes, whether or not the killing of these soldiers took place just after the cease-fire or just if boths immaterial sides were firing at each other after the cease-fire took place. >> nathan thrall, i want to thank you for being with us, senior analyst at the international crisis group. we will link to your article in "the london review of books." as we move to our last segment, early friday morning, an israeli airstrike killed eight members of the afar family, including five children. hit byse was apparently a rocket, causing the family and neighbors to run on the streets. rocket, or missile,
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reportedly struck the household members as they were fleeing. the el-farra family are relatives of the prominent houston physician dr. mona el-farra -- prominent palestinian physician dr. mona el-farra. dr. el-farra, our condolences. can you tell us what happened? >> [indiscernible] >> if you could speak as loudly as you possibly can, because we are having trouble hearing you. ,> it was 2:30 in the morning and the first rocket hit the house. my second cousin was killed. trying to leave the house into missileet, the second hit. was nine people who were
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killed. many injured. -- andmy second cousins the grandchildren were human shields. up to now, at least 16 families have been wiped away completely. >> we are having a little trouble understanding you, and the phoneur niece on with us as well. we have been showing photographs of the children and the men and women in your family who have died. is with us, ad inestinian author based
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columbia, maryland, who testified in congress last week. dr. el-farra is your aunt? >> that's right, my mother's sister. >> when did you get word of the attack and explain who died. >> even though i have been active on social media twitter throughout this ordeal, i woke up that morning and my inbox was flooded and i was receiving dozens of text messages and facebook and so forth and i actually learned about it as soon as i woke up through an e-mail that a friend had sent me and through these various messages of condolences. . was absolutely horrified on some level i almost expected that at any moment both my parents, with me here, and i thought something like this could happen. we are for this over and over again in gaza, at any moment any of our loved ones could be the next so-called target. >> how many members of the family were just show -- we are just showing picture after
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picture right now. >> it was, i believe, 9, as my aunt just mentioned, 5 of them children. 2 youngest children were fleeing the house as the second israeli missile targeted them until that. -- and killed them. these are not human shields, these are not palestinians who have had weapons in the house, not that that would justify in any case under international law their assassination, their extermination from existence. but we see this happening again and again and again, young children overwhelmingly being targeted, killed, civilians, unarmed -- >> we are going to continue following this tomorrow. i want to thank you both for being with us. unfortunately, we have come to the end of our show. that does it for our broadcast. our website is democracynow.org.
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